Should You Use French Or German Grip?

French and German Drumstick Grip
There's only one way to find out
In the previous part to this series on grip, we talked about Why Your Drumstick Grip Is So Important. Now we're going to look at what type of grip you should be using.
To know which grip is best for you, you're going to have to spend a bit of time with each one, discover the benefits and use the one that works best for you.
I'll give you my personal recommendations in this article but everyone is different so what works best for me may not be what works best for you.
Before you go any further make sure you are familiar with What Forearm Rotation Is and How Your Wrist Works. These two posts fully explain the anatomical concepts used in this article.
French grip
For this to work, your hand needs to be halfway between the pronatated and supinated position. Your thumbs should be on top of the stick and your palms should be facing each other. Take at look at my butler, Jarvis, in the left hand photo. You'll see that in this position your sticks will be nearly parallel to each other.
You play notes by either:
- Rotating your forearm toward the drum
- Using ulnar deviation, or
- Using your elbow (similar to how you would use a hammer)
French grip is also great for allowing your fingers access to the stick and feels comfortable when you play straight, unaccented notes on your hi-hats or ride.
German grip
Your hand must be in the pronated position. Your palms facing down the way this time and your thumbs pointing at each other. Your arms now swing out a little to the side and your sticks make an upside-down "V" with an angle between them.
This lets you move your wrist in the most natural way possible: flexion and extension (also called Wrist Technique).
German grip is great if you need a bit more control or if you have to play accents or notes of different volumes eg. when using the Moeller Method.
So which one should you use?
It depends a lot on what you're playing. If you're playing lots of quick notes then french is a good grip because it lets you easily trigger the stick with your fingers. If you're playing lots of accents and ghost notes then German is the best one because it gives you more control over stick heights. I use both of these techniques in my playing. It's probably about 20% French and 80% German.
So the title of this article is misleading: "Should you use french or german grip?" Well why not use both? Or neither of them at all? Often I'll play with my hands halfway in between the two positions (sometimes called american grip). Or I'll play with my hand fully supinated if I need to move about the kit quickly or just want a lazy way of playing my ride.
Technique is something that you should learn once, forget about and then focus on making music.
Alexander
So which grip you been using so far? Do you intend to stick with it? Maybe you've tried both? If so, which one works better for you?
Leave your thoughts and wisdom in the comments below.
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February 11th, 2010 - 07:12
another great blog! i’ve always thought the french needed to get a grip, so i’m glad to see that they did.
February 11th, 2010 - 11:18
Liam,
Hahah! Thanks, you just made my day with this comment!
February 11th, 2010 - 10:55
I actually spend most of my time playing traditional grip or german (when I’m teaching drumline) but playing kit it’s about 50/50 between french and german.
I use french primarily on my right hand (hi-hat/ride cyms & floor tom) and german w/ the Left on the rack tom & both hands when playing on the snare (for shuffles and such)…
Great article!
eP
February 11th, 2010 - 11:33
Eric,
I mostly use German for my left hand too and tend to only use French for my right hand when it is playing the right side of the kit (ride and floor tom like you mentioned).
Traditional grip is one of my weak points though. I have trouble getting the same power out of it that I get for matched grip. I found Jeff Queen’s “The Next Level” to be a good starting off point to learn it. What do you reckon?
February 11th, 2010 - 11:48
Alex,
“The Next Level” is a great place to start but (if I’m not mistaken) is geared more towards line playing (marching band, drum corps applications). If it’s power you’re looking for/lacking then I would focus on your Left arm/elbow movement.
In a drumset application (where uniformity isn’t an issue), your left elbow should swing like a pendulum to compliment the rotation of your wrist.
On the prep or upstroke the elbow should pull in towards your body and when you strike the drum it should push back out. So if you’re laying down a basic 4/4 groove your elbow moves:
- in on ct. 1 (upstroke)
- out on ct. 2(down stroke)
- in on ct. 3(upstroke)
- out on ct. 4 (down stroke)
Since you’re now leveraging the weight/velocity your entire arm instead of just your wrist you’ll be blowing snare heads w/ Traditional grip in no time!
February 11th, 2010 - 12:08
Eric,
Yeah, thats really helpful. It’s almost like a reverse of Moeller technique for matched grip where the elbow is OUT on the up stroke and IN on the down stroke.
I see what you mean about uniformity. Things are definitely less strict in the drumset world.
Awesome thanks!
Alex
February 11th, 2010 - 12:10
“It’s almost like a reverse of Moeller technique for matched grip where the elbow is OUT on the up stroke and IN on the down stroke.”
EXACTLY!