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	<title>Comments on: Should You Use French Or German Grip?</title>
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		<title>By: The Most Overlooked Part Of Your Grip &#171; MakeDrumWork.com</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1229</link>
		<dc:creator>The Most Overlooked Part Of Your Grip &#171; MakeDrumWork.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: ericdpalmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1225</link>
		<dc:creator>ericdpalmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"It’s almost like a reverse of Moeller technique for matched grip where the elbow is OUT on the up stroke and IN on the down stroke."

EXACTLY!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It’s almost like a reverse of Moeller technique for matched grip where the elbow is OUT on the up stroke and IN on the down stroke.&#8221;</p>
<p>EXACTLY!</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Bethune</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1224</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Bethune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 17:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

Yeah, thats really helpful. It's almost like a reverse of Moeller technique for matched grip where the elbow is OUT on the up stroke and IN on the down stroke.

I see what you mean about uniformity. Things are definitely less strict in the drumset world.

Awesome thanks!

Alex</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>Yeah, thats really helpful. It&#8217;s almost like a reverse of Moeller technique for matched grip where the elbow is OUT on the up stroke and IN on the down stroke.</p>
<p>I see what you mean about uniformity. Things are definitely less strict in the drumset world.</p>
<p>Awesome thanks!</p>
<p>Alex</p>
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		<title>By: ericdpalmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1223</link>
		<dc:creator>ericdpalmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Alex,
"The Next Level" is a great place to start but (if I'm not mistaken) is geared more towards line playing (marching band, drum corps applications).  If it's power you're looking for/lacking then I would focus on your Left arm/elbow movement.

In a drumset application (where uniformity isn't an issue), your left elbow should swing like a pendulum to compliment the rotation of your wrist.

On the prep or upstroke the elbow should pull in towards your body and when you strike the drum it should push back out.  So if you're laying down a basic 4/4 groove your elbow moves:
 - in on ct. 1 (upstroke)
 - out on ct. 2(down stroke)
 - in on ct. 3(upstroke)
 - out on ct. 4 (down stroke)

Since you're now leveraging the weight/velocity your entire arm instead of just your wrist you'll be blowing snare heads w/ Traditional grip in no time! ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alex,<br />
&#8220;The Next Level&#8221; is a great place to start but (if I&#8217;m not mistaken) is geared more towards line playing (marching band, drum corps applications).  If it&#8217;s power you&#8217;re looking for/lacking then I would focus on your Left arm/elbow movement.</p>
<p>In a drumset application (where uniformity isn&#8217;t an issue), your left elbow should swing like a pendulum to compliment the rotation of your wrist.</p>
<p>On the prep or upstroke the elbow should pull in towards your body and when you strike the drum it should push back out.  So if you&#8217;re laying down a basic 4/4 groove your elbow moves:<br />
 - in on ct. 1 (upstroke)<br />
 - out on ct. 2(down stroke)<br />
 - in on ct. 3(upstroke)<br />
 - out on ct. 4 (down stroke)</p>
<p>Since you&#8217;re now leveraging the weight/velocity your entire arm instead of just your wrist you&#8217;ll be blowing snare heads w/ Traditional grip in no time! <img src='http://blog.makedrumwork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Bethune</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1222</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Bethune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:33:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eric,

I mostly use German for my left hand too and tend to only use French for my right hand when it is playing the right side of the kit (ride and floor tom like you mentioned).

Traditional grip is one of my weak points though. I have trouble getting the same power out of it that I get for matched grip. I found Jeff Queen's "The Next Level" to be a good starting off point to learn it. What do you reckon?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eric,</p>
<p>I mostly use German for my left hand too and tend to only use French for my right hand when it is playing the right side of the kit (ride and floor tom like you mentioned).</p>
<p>Traditional grip is one of my weak points though. I have trouble getting the same power out of it that I get for matched grip. I found Jeff Queen&#8217;s &#8220;The Next Level&#8221; to be a good starting off point to learn it. What do you reckon?</p>
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		<title>By: Alexander Bethune</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1221</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexander Bethune</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:18:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Liam,

Hahah! Thanks, you just made my day with this comment!</description>
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<p>Hahah! Thanks, you just made my day with this comment!</p>
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		<title>By: ericdpalmer</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>ericdpalmer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 15:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I actually spend most of my time playing traditional grip or german (when I'm teaching drumline) but playing kit it's about 50/50 between french and german.

I use french primarily on my right hand (hi-hat/ride cyms &amp; floor tom) and german w/ the Left on the rack tom &amp; both hands when playing on the snare (for shuffles and such)...   

Great article!

eP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I actually spend most of my time playing traditional grip or german (when I&#8217;m teaching drumline) but playing kit it&#8217;s about 50/50 between french and german.</p>
<p>I use french primarily on my right hand (hi-hat/ride cyms &amp; floor tom) and german w/ the Left on the rack tom &amp; both hands when playing on the snare (for shuffles and such)&#8230;   </p>
<p>Great article!</p>
<p>eP</p>
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		<title>By: immortalliam</title>
		<link>http://blog.makedrumwork.com/2010/02/11/should-you-use-french-or-german-grip/comment-page-1/#comment-1217</link>
		<dc:creator>immortalliam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Feb 2010 12:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another great blog!  i've always thought the french needed to get a grip, so i'm glad to see that they did. :-P</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another great blog!  i&#8217;ve always thought the french needed to get a grip, so i&#8217;m glad to see that they did. <img src='http://blog.makedrumwork.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':-P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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